Thursday, April 03, 2008

We've moved!


Dear readers,

I am writing on behalf of the proGnosis authors to inform you that we have moved address. Our new address is, www.theprognosis.org. There we have a whole new site with the usual blog, but also with pages for downloading articles, sermons, music and for displaying videos which will be uploaded in time.

We will no longer be using this address so please use our new address in future. We hope this doesn't inconvenience you too much and we hope we don't lose you as a reader in future. And by the way, this is not because google are trying to shut us down, that was an April Fool's joke. It's simply that now we have more stuff and a better url!

Your's gratefully and sincerely

Jonny Raine (Techie!)
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Tuesday, April 01, 2008

Evil, evil Google (APRIL FOOLS)

It's a sad sad day for everyone here at proGnosis (that includes you, the reader). Today will mark the end of this blog.

Apparently, someone over at Google got hold of the fact we were linking to one of their videos without permission and as such we've been told by the good people at blog.com that our account will be suspended sometime this afternoon.

Apparently it has something to do with us being a profitable organization (because our Churches take collections) but is more liekly to do with blog.com being a rival to Googles "Blogger."

Well Google, we certainly wont be switching to your big corporate world!!!

Anyway, to all those who ahve read over the last year or so, thanks, and keep it up!
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Tuesday, March 25, 2008

Watch This! Then Read the book.

alt : http://www.youtube.com/v/Kxup3OS5ZhQ&hl=en
It's an hour long, so if you want to go straight to source you can click here.

The backgorund is...Google host talks regualrly in their various headquarters. Talks are by authors, Presidential canditates, etc. For some reason, they invited Tim Keller.
Posted by Lewis Roderick at 17:54:50 | Permanent Link | Comments (4) |

I know that my Redeemer lives (but I'm not certain how Job did...)

I want to preach Christ. And I want to do it from everwhere. Jesus says he's everywhere in the Bible, so when I preach, I want to find him, and make him clear to people. 

Sometimes, this is easy. Turn to Mark, and it's fairly easy to see Jesus. Turn to Esther, and it's not so easy (whoaoh there cowboys! Don't rush ahead to the comment bit yet...).

Or in Job. This Easter I thought I'd be a smarty pants. Job 19 -  "I know that my Redeemer lives". Piece of cake, thought I. Jesus = The Redeemer, He lives. Easy. 

Until I started working on it. Who was this Job? Job in the opening chapter, we're told, is a good God fearer - makes sacrifices for his family and has lots of cows. Sounds like Abraham, probably one of his contemporaries. Which means he's proper early in the Bible story. Pre-exodus, and importantly, pre-law of Moses. That's important because it's from the Law that we get all our understanding of the Redeemer that Jesus ultimately fulfills. So the question I started asking (and am still asking) is 'what did Job mean when he said 'Redeemer'?' And as much as I tried, I couldn't answer with 'the same as us'. 

See, I know that Jesus is our kinsman redeemer because a redeemer had to be like the one that he was taking the place of, or avenging. As Jesus came in the likeness of sinful flesh to redeem us from the curse of the law, he was like us, and did for us what we couldn't do. I see how Jesus fulfills the Redeemer thing. But if Israel was not going to have any idea about what a Redeemer was meant to do for another few hundred years what did Job mean... and don't even get me started on Job not even being an Israelite...

Two things over-ride my thinking. First is this 'progressive revelation' thing (a posh way of of saying that as the Bible story developed, people learnt more about Jesus). I think it's real. To me, it makes perfect sense that Adam knew less than us, Abraham knew less than us, Moses knew less than us... Isaiah knew more, but still less than us. Now, as Jesus goes 'no one gets to the Father except through me' it's clear that they were all saved by Jesus. But whether they knew that as we do? I seriously doubt. 

Which brings me back to Job. It's clear that he trusted God. It's clear that he was vindicated by God. and that he spoke to God. And all of this, looking back, I am convinced is Jesus. Lookinh via the cross, I know that Job 19 is about Jesus. I just don't have a clue whether he knew this at the time.

The other factor is that I want to be true to the text. I don't want to go all Spurgeon on anyone. I know "he was greatly used by God" and that I should pray for a bit of what he was given... but he's no model for explaining the text  is he? (Except for the Treasury of David for some reason...). 

But maybe I've gone too far over to the dry side. All word and no spirit, that's what they call it. The more I tried to find Jesus legitimately in Job, whilst fighting my temptation to see him as I see him, before seeing him as Job saw him... the less I could see anything. Are you confused? Good. So was I.  

In the end, I cut my loses. And went after Romans 1 instead.      
 

Posted by Lewis Roderick at 17:27:22 | Permanent Link | Comments (3) |

Thursday, March 20, 2008

Fast, Like a Camel

I saw a programme about a month ago which had a guy on it who raced camels, like how people race horses. They go really fast. I would put a picture here to show you but we all know that's not going to happen! So search on google images and you'll get the gist. But that's not the "fast" about camels I mean. I mean how they have humps full of fat on their backs that mean they can fast, as in go without food, for ages.

So how's your fast been this year? Have you survived your 40 days Lent that finish on Saturday? Did you go all out and give up food completely or did you only give up, say, chocolate, or some other nicety? If you're anything like me, which I suspect most of us are, then Lent will have passed with you barely missing a single meal.

Unless you're part of the Anglican, Catholic or Orthodox church then fasting is not something we talk about much. We use those verses in Matthew 6:16-18

"When you fast, do not look sombre as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show men they are fasting. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face, so that it will not be obvious to men that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
And based on this verse, we say that we shouldn't let people know we are fasting or have fasted and we shouldn't talk about it or do it even as a whole church. Or maybe that's just my experience? These verses aren't talking about how we shouldn't let others know that we are fasting or that fasting should be an individualistic thing. After all, the verses before tell us to pray in a closed room. The point there is that our prayers shouldn't be 'showy' and the point here with fasting is that our fasting shouldn't be 'showy' either. So instead of looking deliberately rough when fasting we should look our best, because we don't do it for glory in the site of men, but for God. 

It's something it's assumed we will do: "When you fast". It's something tied to prayer. But why do we do it? What is accomplished by fasting? How does it benefit me or God? These are questions on which the Bible is pretty much silent. I can't find any answers to these questions from the Bible. Can you? The answer I was given growing up was that fasting gives us more time to pray, and therefore that we can fast by merely not watching TV or something. I think there's a small amount of truth to that but I think limiting it to that is undercutting what fasting is.

So since the Bible remains quiet, that means we have to figure it out by experience. I've only fasted four times, ever, a total of, check me out, six days! One of those occasions wound up with me getting chased by 25 bullocks, but that's another story! So here's some thoughts (not at all exhaustive) from my experiences as to what the benefits of fasting are.

It expresses a devotion to God: Acts of devotion aren't in fashion at the moment. But fasting is one of these things. It expresses to God our commitment to him, that we are willing to go without our most basic needs for God. It's not that God needs us to actually do anything as such for him to see our commitment, but then God asks us to pray even though he knows what we will ask.

It highlights our weakness: When you're feeling weak, miserable and starving, you realise how pathetic you are. The fact that you need to rely on food to keep you alive shows what you are before the self-existent God. In a small way, you face your own mortality.

Food and life is shown as secondary to God: Food is something we expect. It's easier to have a meal than it is to take a bite out of God's Word. When we fast, the tables are turned. We are more ready to go to God and his Word since we can't have a meal anyway. God is physically shown as being more important to me than even my food. It's an obvious means of self-denial.

Those thoughts are not exhaustive, as I said, so if you have more experiential wisdom about it then please share in the comments.

If you've been inspired to have a go and have never done it before then start where you can. Try fasting for just a day or two. Or even just miss a meal. If you're feeling hardcore then why not actually try the 40 day fast. It is possible. I know Jesus was God so he was bound to last the 40 days, but many others have done it. Here's a website with tips on how to fast even for 40 days, as well as more discussion on the matter than I can give. It's not about how long you can last but about your heart as you fast.

WARNING: If you've got medical conditions or are not generally fit and healthy, be wise and check with your doctor first.
Posted by Jonny Raine at 16:17:19 | Permanent Link | Comments (0) |

Tuesday, March 18, 2008

How weary, stale, flat and unprofitable...

It's not an easy thing to talk about really. It's so much easier to try and be clever. And of course, the beauty of spending enough time in a Christian culture is you can get very good at it; you can say all the right stuff so that no-one (except those very close to you) notice anything is wrong, unless you want them to. Just get into a doctrinal debate, or onto your favourite illustrations. Talk about the weather, talk about the gospel even, talk about anything except how you are really doing. I mean, I don't want to scare anyone. But then again, I've probably reached the point where I don't really care.

I don't even know what to call it. 'Backsliding', perhaps? In the church culture I come from that term seems to be reserved for those who really go off the rails, you know - the classic AWOL cases. 'Spiritual dryness' seems to be the more PC, the more respectable - and less stigmatised - term for what I'm going through, although I'm not sure what the difference is, in all honesty.

Doubts. 'Have I just got this whole thing wrong?', 'There seem to be a lot of people out there doing quite well without the gospel...', 'Why don't I feel anything when I pray?', 'Why does the Bible not excite me any more?', 'Let's be honest, why I would I rather be doing something else - anything else - than spending time with God's people?', 'Am I just a product of conditioning?'...

Tiredness. Of the spiritual variety. 'I've just run out of steam in this ministry. Frankly, I couldn't care less. Someone else can worry about it. When they eventually notice I'm not really doing it...'

Melancholy. What a great word. But what an awful feeling. I have no joy, no peace.

I'm not bitter and twisted. I don't blame any one else for my arrival in this place. I'm as tired as the next man of all those worn-out excuses for disillusionment - "I just couldn't stand the hypocrisy of other so-called Christians..." - you know that sort of nonsense (as if they have never had a hypocritical thought in the last five minutes...)

Nope, I'm sure I have no-one to blame except myself, I'm just not sure how I got here - or how to get back out. I've been here for such a long time now, that I frequently lack the energy and the inclination to analyse it.

Of course, when you're doing well spiritually you have all the theory - hey, I know where it's at - I've read 'Spiritual Depression' twice at least. The problem is course, when you are this low, when the doubts REALLY creep in, when the heavens are as lead as they say, then the questions change - 'Do I actually want to get out of here?', 'Perhaps I quite like rebounding between arrogant individualism and self-pity?', 'Maybe that's as good as it gets so I should just go and find some more distractions? After all, some of them are quite good fun.'

And that's scary for anyone with theory.

One thing I do know - and this is not just theory - is that the only slight parting clouds, the only chink of light over the last couple of months, has been when I have been reminded of grace. And then only enough to prick my ears up a little, not to turn my life around. The rest of the time, everything inside of me tells me to read more, to pray more, to pull myself together, to just be better. And that simply makes the clouds thicker, heavier, and more oppressive. Because that's the very thing I have no inclination to be right now.

But to hear people talk about grace does quicken the pulse, slightly. And it does stir some faint feelings of motivation to love Jesus. I'm not saying the clouds part and I see everything new; but even so this, I suppose, is no coincidence.
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